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causing whisps of steam to rise off the lake. it's a beautiful sight. thanks so much for watching. more news is always on the way. today, a unique perspective on nelson mandela. an apartheid leader who helped transform south africa and served in mandela's government. >> adored by all of the people of this country. >> pik botha reflects on mandela's life and legacy. and we'll go live to south africa for the latest on the death of a towering statesman. then, the white house launches a new obama care offensive. >> you got good ideas, bring them to me. let's go. but we're not repealing it as
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long as i'm president. >> and i don't know why any american would trust this government after all the broken promises they've already seen. in obama care. >> we'll discuss the latest on o bam care and a new gop plan to boost our inner cities with rand paul. it's a fox news sunday exclusive. plus, with the website working better and enrollment on the rise, we'll ask one of the law's architects where obama care goes from here. and it's been ten years since i took over the anchor chair here. it's been quite a ride. we'll look back at some of our favorite moments from the last ten years. all right now on fox news sunday. and hello again from fox news in washington. this is a national day of prayer and reflection in south africa. as that nation continues to mourn the man many consider its father.
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south africans gathereded at makeshift shrines who died thursday at the age of 95. gregg is live outside mandela's home in johannesburg with the latest. >> chris, which was supposed to be that national day of prayer and reflection and in fact, at churches and synagogues across the country were filled with people marking the day, but here in what was the home neighborhood of nelson mandela, the mood here is anything but solemn. in fact, it is festive. take a look at what we saw, what we heard. they chanteded, blacks, whites and all races. young and old. it seems important for all to be as close as possible to be close to the spot. candles were lit. gifts presented. the south african people slowly realizing the person who helped
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rid the country of apartheid and led the nation in the first democratic government is no more. >> just a few feet away from where mandela passed away thursday night in a johannesburg neighborhood, a huge mountain of flowers is being laid by his friends, the people of this coun country, as they come here to pray, to mourn, to celebrate, to express their feelings. >> as you can see, the nation is is mourning. we've lost a big hero. >> did a lot. >> meant a lot. >> for everyone. >> when mandela was -- still a baby and now, i'm here with my baby and we're experiencinging this time for us. >> now comes a long week of memorials. it is billed the biggest funeral of the century. on tuesday, there will be a massive event at the soccer stadium. in attendance, president obama
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and former president george bush. also, presidents clinton and carter. mandela's body will lie in state for three days and then he will be buried next sunday in his home village. bu buried, but certainlily not forgotten. >> greg, thanks for that. and later in the program, our exclusive interview with pik botha, a top south african official in the apartheid era, but now, we turn to washington where the obama administration has put together a team of democratic lawmakers to sell the embattled health care law to a skeptical public. we'll speak to an architect of obama care, but joining me now is is rand paul. welcome back. >> good morning. >> before we get to obama care, i want to talk to you about your trip to detroit this week where you helped open the first of what are going on several republican outreach centers and
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inner cities. you also unveiled your plan for economic freedom zones in depressed areas. let's take a look at that plan. you had sent a flat individual and corporate tax rate with 5%. give parents more school choice and education tax credits and loosen visa rules to encourage entrepreneurs to open businesses. while those are all good ideas, you've got to pour more government money into those inner cities if you're going to make a difference. >> well, chris, it hasn't worked. the president pours a trillion dollars into the nation's economy when you divided it out, it was about $400,000 per child. the problem with a government stimulus is you pick the winners and loser rs. with this stimulus i'm talking about, a free market stimulus, you simply leave the money in the hands of those who have earned it, so the customers have pickeded out the successful people. those people get more money. like i met a young man, young
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african man who has his own restaurant. his first question is do you have any tax breaks for me for my business. that's what what would do. help people in business and trying. >> but i don't have to tell you senator, republicans have a steep hill to climb in inner city neighborhoods. in detroit in november, 97% of detroit voters supported president obama. 2% voted for rom thi. the black unemployment rate nationally is still 12.5% and right now, president obama is calling out the gop for what he says is your party to extend long-term unemployment benefits. take a look at what he says. >> for decades, congress has voted to offer relief to job seekers, including when the unemployment rate is lower than it is today, but now, that economic lifeline is in jeopardy all because republicans in this congress, which is on track to be the most unproductive in
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history, have so far refused to extend it. >> senator, let me ask you a direct question. do you personally, do you support extending unemployment benefits or would you let 1.3 million americans lose those benefits before the end of the year? >> i do support unemployment benefits for the 26 weeks that they're paid for. if you extend it beyond that, you do a disservice to these workers. there was a study that came out a few months ago and it said if you have a worker that's been unemployed for four weeks and on unemployment insurance, every employer, nearly 100%, said they will always hire the person who's been out of work four weeks. when you allow people to be out on unemployment insurance for 99 weeks, you're causing them to become part of this perpetual unemployed group in our economy and while it seems good, it actually does a disservice to the people you're trying to help.
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double black employment is double white employment. a lot of african-americans have voted for him, but i don't think his policies have worked. >> how do you persuade the african american voter in the inner city, you're not going to spend more money. you're going to vote to let the unemployment benefits last, how do you persuade that black voter this is the right policy? >> my economic stimulus plan for detroit would leave over a billion dollars in detroit's economy and would stimulate detroit. there is no other plan on the table and there is not going to be some grand bailout to go through congress. if my plan would pass, i think it's the only one that could pass. over a billion dollars would be left in detroit. i'm also talking about restoring voting rights, school choice. i think there's a lot to offer that hasn't been offered in the past and there's only upside.
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>> senator, you face the same challenge when it comes to obama care. most of your colleagues in the senate and house, want the repeal the law, but the other side says if you were to do that, it would take away preventative care for 105 million cares. free preventive care. obama care provides health services to americans including free immunizations for children. free cancer screenings. free mammograms. what is your plan that would allow these folk, 105 million americans, to keep those benefits? >> first of all, there is nothing for free. you've got to pay for it. more people will lose their insurance under obama care. the republican plan is we have a choice. more choices not less. obama care narrows your choices.
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for competition, selling insurance across state line and above all, we're for driving premiums now. under obama care, the premiums are even higher. yonlt see any way obama care can work. >> let me turn to another subject. loans. last march, you took to the senate floor for 13 hours to filibuster a nomination because of your opposition to the military use of drones to attack u.s. citizens. this week as i'm sure you know, the head, we're looking at a picture of the drone right there, of amazon, announced they have plans, maybe five years down the road, that loans would come, pick up a package. a book, a sweater and deliver it to your front door where you could take it. instead of a delivery truck. when you see that, and i'm sure you have seen those videos, does that excite you or do you think
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that's a problem and i've got to find a way to block? >> well, you know, i'm not against technology, so i'm not one of those people who says airplanes is really a bad thing. there will be air traffic control issues. my problem is more with surveillance for privacy reasons, so i'm worried about the government looking into our backyard. also worried about companies looking in our windows. i have said previously, this has nothing to do with amazon, but that the rules on peeping toms will have to be applied to higher technology. there has to be a certain extension of your privacy. not only your house, but your yard and the things you do that people shouldn't be able to observe all the time. there will have to be rules on private entities, but most particularly, the government looking at our activities. >> we also learned this week another revelation from edward snowden, that the nsa collects records on cell phones. four billion cell phone records
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outside the country every day and they can track where those cell phones are so they can track where people are. how severely would you like to restrict the surveillance by the national security agency? >> i would like to apply the fourth amendment to third party records. so when i have a contract with a phone company, i think those are still my records and you can look at them if you're from the government if you ask a judge. a warrant applies to one person. not to everyone in america. it's absolutely against the spirit and the letter of the fourth amendment to say that a judge can write one warrant and you can get every phone call in america and that's what's happening. i think it's wrong. it goes against everything america stands for and i will help to fight that all the way to the support. we need to get the supreme court to re-examine our records. >> so, you would ban if you
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could, all mass data mining. >> i'm for going after terrorists with every tool we have. i'm not opposed to the nsa, to spying, but i am infavor of the fourth amendment. if you think someone's a terrorist, you call a judge, get a warrant. if that's person's called 100 people, you get 100 more warrants. if they've called 10,000 people, you've got to get 10,000 warrants and it's a pain, but it's a pain because we're trying to protect people's freedom. that's what we're fighting against terrorism to protect, so we can't give up the bill of rights in order to try to fight terrorism. you have to keep your privacy. you have to keep the bill of rights. >> finally, senator, and you knew i was going to ask about this. 2016. you said this week your wife, kelly, is strongly opposed to your running for president. i know how important that is, but your wife doesn't like an idea. you said you're going to try to quote, persuade her, during the
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next year. talking to on camera and off, i get the impression you would like to run for president. >> well, you know, the thought has crossed my mind, chris, and i am seriously thinking about it, but i also am very serious about family considerations. just look at what happens daily to any politician in america. they really are. they take a toll on family and so, it is a big consideration and i really am not sure what will happen and we'll go another year. sometimes, you have a good week and the next week, they pound you to death and you know, the haters and the hacks go after you and it is really an ordeal to be in public life sometimes. there are great things to be part of the debate. i love that stuff. but i also hate it when families attack and when they get into the news and so do they. >> to follow up on that, sir, would it be fair to say that family considerations at this point are the only thing that
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would keep you from running? >> they're a major component of the discussion, but a lot of things enter into it, so we'll see what happens over the next year. i'm going to keep doing the things i am doing. trying to help fight for jobs in kentucky as well as across america and i'll just keep doing the things that i want to do and i think the people of kentucky elected me to do and i'm just not ready to make a decision yet. >> thanks for joining us. it's always a pleasure to talk with you, sir. up next, the website is working better, but are obama care's problems solved? dr. emanuel, one of the law's architects, returns to fox news sunday. plus, today marks ten years since i joined the fox family. >> good morning and welcome to fox news sunday, volume two. >> oh, my gosh. well, we'll have some of the highlights later in the program and we'd like you to logon to facebook and share some of your
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the white house says the health care website is dramatically improved, but does that mean obama care is now out of the woods? joining us now, dr. ezekiel emanuel. welcome back to fox news sunday. since the relaunch a week ago of the website, enrollment numbers are up sharply. that's the good news, but the administration says that the website is still sending
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erroneous messages to insurers about one in ten people who think they have signed up. isn't a 10% error rate still a serious problem? >> as i understand it, they're working very hard on those so-called 834 forms and second of all, they're working with the insurers to clean up that information and they did push that a little further down, which they have time to do because they don't need to get the information to them for another few weeks and they're both working really hard to solve that problem. in addition, they identified one bug that seals to be causing a large portion. >> but it's still a problem. >> in october, you said they couldn't solve the b problem of signing up. they have gone a lopg way. >> i never said that. you're making that up. >> and now, they decidedly put this second and they're kr addressing it. >> okay, but i never said they couldn't fix it.
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i'm just simply pointing out it isn't fixed and there is still a 10% error rate. you talked about the fact that the government sends a34 enrollment forms to the insurers, which tell them how many people have signed up, who they are, all the information. but it trns out that some are just left off entirely. isn't it the facts, a possibility that perhaps tens of thousan thousands of people who they think they signed up may end up on january 1st without coverage? >> when we did the medicare part d under president bush, there was a lot of seniors left out and didn't get their drug refills and there were millions of people that had problems during that switch over. these are large switchovers and the government has said and i believe medicare has said, it's very important to call the insurance company you have to
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verify that you have in addition in this case, they're sending out information with cards, so people know whether they're covered or not. i think they're working diligently, both the insurers and the government to make sure people don't find themselves on january 1st or 2nd without coverage. everyone is trying to work together to solve the problem. we're trying to make this thing work. is there going to be no glitches? i know that when i got my iphone, there were lots of glitches. this happens with large scale enrollment of millions of people, but i think there's a diligent effort on everyone's part to reduce the chance of being left off. >> all right, one of the keys to obama care, everybody says you've got to get young, healthy people to sign up. up on the screen, a new poll by the harvard institute of politics finds only 20% of 18-29-year-olds say they will definitely or probably enroll.
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47% they will probably not sign up. now, you have acknowledged, if you don't get young people to sign up, not enough young people sign up, too many older, sicker peop people, premiums go up, more young healthy people get off and you end up eventually with a pool of just older, sicker people with sky high premiums. that is a real possibility, is it not? >> no, i don't think it is a real possibility. let me identify several points why that is not a very useful piece of information. in california, when they lookeded actually at the number of enrolle eric s and broke them down by age, the number of young adults, 18-34, match ed the population in california that you would expect. and that's exactly what you want to be seeing. that's not a poll. it's actual signing up. second of all -- >> i don't mean to interrupt,
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but i want to put up some numbers because i want to speak directly to that point. put up this number, obama care needs 7 million people to sign up. that's what the president said over and over. >> no, no, that's what the congressional budget office -- that's not what anyone said you need. a difference between need and project. and of that, if i may, sir, you don't want me to interrupt you, you need 2.7 million of those people to be between the ages of 18-34. that is a percentage. 2.7 million of the 39% in california. of the pool. 39% in california, pool so far is only 23%. of the 39% you need to have the right mix of young people. so your california example -- >> matches the population. >> that's irrelevant. it doesn't match what obama care
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has said that you need as in the pool to keep a fiscally sustainable number. >> i think there is going to be a sustainable number and the other thing you need to keep in mind is that the 18 to 34, a large number of those people are going to be on their parents plan. up to age 26. and so, you're concentrated in a group of 26 to 34-year-olds and that i think is where you need to get them to purchase with their own money and that, i do think is a group that you're going to be able to get. let me just say one other thing. there are three reasons i think people in that age group are going to sign up. first, you have a penalty. now, everyone talks about $95, but the fact is, it's 1% of income, which for most people is going to be more than $95. second, you have subsidies for many of these people that is going to make the price look and be very low. if you're a 30-year-old in
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california, you can get a silver plan and you make about 150% of the poverty line, get a silver plan for $50 a month. third, given the preventive services and other things, that premium is something you can cover by using the preventive services because people are getting preventive care, so i think there's many reasons for people to sign up that they will sign up. >> i have to move on. >> one more thing i'd like to point out, no one has launched a big pr campaign to get these people signed up because of the problems with the federal website. we are about to launch a big pr campaign an that is going to persuade a lot of people! the harvard poll says only 20% are going to sign up in california. de definitely or probably i understand that the obama campaign slogan, but at this point, that's all you have. >> we have four more months to
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go to the end of march. >> president obama famously promised if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. doesn't that turn out to be just as false, just as misleading as his promise about if you like your plan, you can keep your plan? isn't it a fact, sir, that a number, most in faft, of the obama care health plans being offered on the exchanges, exclude a number of doctors and homts? >> the president never said you were going to have unlimited choice of any doctor in the country you want to go to. >> he asked a question. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. did he not say that? >> he didn't say you can have unlimited choice. >> did he say if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor? >> yes, but if you want to pay more for an insurance that covers your doctor, you can do that. this is a matter of choice. we know in all sorts of places, you pay more for a wider range of choices or wider range of benefits. the issue isn't the selective
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networks. people keep saying the problem -- let me just say something. people are going to have a choice as to whether they're going to pay amount for a selective net wok or more for a broader network. they get that choice. that's the choice. >> may go up over what you were paying so in other words -- >> no one guaranteed you your would increase. >> the president guaranteed me i could keep my doctor. >> and if you want to, you can pay for it. zbh premiums went up 80% after inflation. we've actually seen a leveling off in the last few years because of changes that have been made. >> as a matter of fact, choice is something you all understand, we all understand that for more choice, more benefits, you have to pay more. >> final question. last week, you had this to say about the website. for the first time, and most importantly, we actually have effective management overseeing.
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we have an integrator that's independent and it seems to be effective as opposed to having cms run it. which seems to be saying is that finally, we've got somebody who knows what he's doing in charge of cms who screwed this up. >> finally, should the president fire kathleen sebelius or marilyn tav ner? >> i think it was something that was a mistake and i think the president recognized. they promised to put a -- >> in october after the disaster. my question -- >> that was a mistab. >> should someone be held accountable? >> look, the president is running his ship. he's going to decide how to do it. most companies right the ship, then decide what has to happen. he'll make a decision if he's going to find someone else to run. a new ceo to run the website and
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the federal changes and i think that is a excellent decision to replace jeff when he goes to the national economic council and it's quite clear you need someone who can manage that and really run it. >> dr. emanuel, thank you again for coming in, sir. >> no problem. >> it's always interesting. >> good. up next, our sunday panel joins the discussion on obama care and the president's pivot back to economic issues. plus, what would you like to ask the panel? we may use your question on the air. ick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology.
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president obama once again challenging republicans to tell their plans to help the middle class and it's time for our sunday group. brit, julie, who covers the white house for the associated press. george will and fox news political analyst, juan. the president is still talking about obama care, but this week, he made a big pivot to economic issues talking about raising the minimum wage, extending unemployment benefits. when he did this a couple of years ago and assume d the
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self-proclaimed mantle of champion of the middle class, it helped him win re-election in 2012. do you think it can help democrats win in 2014? >> what he said there basically, if you don't like my plans for your agenda, give us your plans. i think this pivot to the economy is an attempt to change the subject from obama care, which is so dominating, the news of the past several months. and to rally his base, which is always what he does first. sometimes, that's all he's needed to do, but my sense is he's not going to be able to make this into a big national issue the party can win on because his credibility is so week. in that harvard poll, it was one of those open ended questions about what is your top priority.
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income inequality was way down the list and i think it is for a lot of people. now, the president of the bully pulpit can sometimes elevate an issue and make it a big issue and so on, but i think he's weakened now, the bully pulpit is a depreciating asset for him now. >> it did work back in 2011. we had the debt debacle this august of 2011. he started championing the middle class in kansas and it boosted his standing. when you talk to folks in the white house, do they say we're trying to change the subject? do they think there's a chance they can raise the minimum wage and extend unemployment benefits or is it swrus political position? >> certainly, they are looking for things they can talk about that are separate from health care. they need to show that not om are they focused on other things, but they have the space, the intellectual space to talk about other things. when you talk to americans and look at polling, the economy
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still is a top issue. he needs to be that matter to americans. from jobs reports and other met ribs have come out showing improvements in the economy, a lot f people are not feeling that. in terms he can get anything done, minimum wage, universal pr pr pr pre-k, i think that's going to be difficult. >> whatever he wants to pivot from, will all the problems with obama care with still around and this week, the president had a very interesting analysis of why the rollout went so badly. take a look. >> the challenge that we have going forward is not so much my personal management style or particular issues around white house organization, it has to do with what i referred to earlier, which is we have these big agencies, some of which are outdated.
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some of which are not designeded properly. >> not to put too fine a point on it, but it's those outdated agencies that he, under obama care, about a fifth of the economy. >> the education of this president is a protracted and often muted process as it was this week. as he continues to enlight upon the obvious, he's letting on what is obvious to government this is why we should have governors and senators as president. the president is saying -- and like a lot of other big -- it has a central nervous system. it's governed by inertia and it's hard to move. this from a man -- to increasing the power of government and redistribution of income because government is wiser than market. it's as i say highly amusing. >> we have been asking all of you to send us questions to ask
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the panel and we have one we want to put up on the screen. what other -- do supporters have that the law is intended. juan? >> well, i think you deserve a straight answer because the snowstorm of partisan politics around the obama care thing right now, so i'd say this number one thing i would say is just look at this week. a million people went to the website as it was working, so it's an appetite, a real need. millions more in adequately insured who can avoid bankruptcy, illnesses and so, number two, i think it's the reason i think this is going to work is it doesn't disrupt the market for most people. nobody on this panel is is going to have their health care affected, impacted by what's
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taken place. 70% have employer provided insurance and that's stays in place right now. massachusetts, the republican model worked. and has high approval ratings in the state. fourth, i'd say the insurance companies are investing in this. the insurance company want this to work. my last point on this is the cost of health care has increase has declined over the last three years. as preexisting conditions now is removed. we've seen that you can keep your kids on your insurance plan and we've seen that the insurance companies, i can't say there's a cap to your spending. >> you agree with juan's answer to skip, george? >> the answer is public relations. you heard it this morning. a solution for all these problems, including the adverse selection. public relations. people just don't understand as per the administration the glories of this, the problem is that in selling the glories of this, since 2009, continues not
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only to be unpopular, but more unpopular today than it was then, so belief in the magic of words is running up against the lot. >> julie? >> i think this has been a problem for them since the very beginning. how do you sell something that is very complex to people? it's complex to people whether it's by your employer -- >> there was that other moment apparent learning curve when the president said, boy, buying insurance is really complicated. >> or getting a plane ticket. the pr campaign is going to be very interesting because it's targeted towards the young, healthy people. that's a much different exercise though than getting people to sign up for health insurance. >> is it possible, let me say, brother williams' position here that all of the critics are wrong and the website is going
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to start to work and we'll look back on this in six months and say, what are we scared? >> well, i think eventually, it will work for some people. they'll find a subsidized policy to their liking. that will cost a reasonable amount from their point of view for what they're getting. there are going to be winners under obama care in time. the problem for the president is the kind of negative emotions stirred as we saw so vividly with a policy cancellations for individual policies began to roll in. we got another wave of that. perhaps not. but millions of people who get employ sponsored health care are going to lose it. this means you're going to have another wave of bad news that are going to further affect people's feelings about this program. >> all right. thank you, panel. when we come back, we'll hear from pik botha, a top official who served in nelson mandela's
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national day of prayer to honor nelson mandela. pik botha was south africa's prime minister in the last years of apartheid. he was invited by mandela to serve in his biracial government. we interviewed him this year in anticipation. here is greg with both his reflection. starting the mandela's goal. >> sunday, the sun was shining. i think that's how the thought originated.
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in the mind of mandela and bishop tutu, it was the wish. from outside and on the side of mr. mandela. that to continue our -- and echo them, would mean the destruction of this. it would mean to a civil war that no one would to go. >> as botha recalls, mandela's message of peace following years of action against apartheid, he made his famous speech that would lead to his imprisonment. >> he said that i have fought against one domination.
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and i have fought against black domination. i have cherished the idea of democratic and free society. all lift together and with equal opportunities. and then he concludes by saying this is the idea, i have to live for and to achieve. but it needs to be, it is an ideal for what i'm prepared to die. >> mandela was an icon, but he had a very human side, too, as botha would find out when he reached out to mandela during his presidential years.
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>> the second -- i think in march 1996 and got a message that he felt extremely lonely. so i phoned and he answered the phone. not the secretary. and i then conveyed my condolences and we -- to absorb this event now. and no empathy, friendship, only time first time he started to stop and he's a human being. >> a few years later, mandela
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returned the favor. >> i once said operated on in 1998, prostate cancer. mr. mandela had the same operation while he was in prison and when i woke up on labor day one may 1998, the year was printed next to my hospital bed. and he said to me, i've come to see how you are. but your doctors say euro kay. i was so glad, he said. i went through the same ordeal. now, get better. we still need each other. >> for all the human side of
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mandela, it's a each other. >> for the human side of mandela, recalling what mandela did with all of that time in jail. >> he has the capacity to spend 27 years in prison and come out of that prison and lead the country governed by whites since the first men settled in 1752 and in such a way that he was adorned by all of the people of the this country irrespective of their color. he had the capacity and remained a humble -- very, very humble human being. >> impressive to botha was mandela's ability to forgive. he once said, he could work with
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a black president. >> indirectly i predicted this as the privilege of experiencing it in the cabinet when he was president he supported me on several occasions with respect to matters on which cabinet ministers severely attacked or opposed some of the steps i wanted to take. >> it is mandela's legacy of reconciliation that bchl otha thinks could be the late leaders final contribution. >> i think this country can be grateful. the tremendous values and values which he brought to south africa, proficient government, forgiveness in the sense of don't let the revenge and hatred of the past ruin you or
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influence your decisions. it will hamper progressive decisions. not promote it. that's his symbolism. that's what he stands for. >> if you'd like to read more of pik botha's reflection on mandela, go to foxnews.com/fns. up next, a look at spending ten years of sundays together. [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprisewinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪
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it was ten years ago i first sat at this desk and started sharing sunday mornings with you and i feel like we've been through this together because you certainly let me know when you liked what we're doing and you really let me know when you don't. here's a look back at some of our favorite moments. the good, the bad, and a few surprises. >> thank you very much for having me on. i really appreciate being the first democrat on the show. >> why didn't you do more to put bin laden and al qaeda out of business when you were president? >> you did fox's video on this show. you did your life little conservative hit job on me. >> wait a minute. i'm asking a question. you can't answer a legitimate question. >> it was a perfectly legitimate question but i want to know how many people in the bush
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administration you've asked this question of. >> dr. rice, all of the talk about the aluminum tubes was wrong. >> the intelligence at the time -- and chris, it is the fact that you can only act today on what you knew yesterday. >> six weeks ago we started something called the obama watch. the amount of time that had passed since the senator promised me he would come on fox news sunday. >> thank you for having me. >> long time, no see. >> what if president obama goes after you as gordon gecko, greed is good. >> of course he will. >> we are winding down two wars. >> of course we are. >> nobody thought you would spend that money anyway. it's a budget gimmick, sir. >> are you going back to the days of the gremlin? >> and when netanyahu requested a meeting, the president said he was too busy to meet him. let me ask a question. >> i'm sorry. >> there will be a question mark at the end. >> what about the right to privacy the court found in 1965?
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>> there's no right to proif see in the constitution, no generalized right to privacy. >> in the griswold case it did. >> and that was wrong. >> you have the most liberal voting session and you're called the liberal lie job of the senate. >> you never feel very far away from the job. it follows you everywhere you go. but i do feel -- i feel somewhat out of the bubble. >> as you see right now, we currently have this area set up where there's two beds available for the president and first lady. >> may i? >> go ahead. >> ah, the hope diamond. >> to the top of the capitol dome, just reopened to the public on a limited basis for the first time since 9/11. >> you walked up, a little too close to an unexploded bomb. these aren't hollywood special effects. >> no. no. >> you were risking your life. >> i see a lot of smiles. it seems -- it doesn't seem like
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a downer. >> oh, no, it's not. this is a happy place. >> i feel last year was the best year of my life. i got the love and support of a lot of people. >> your 42nd birthday and we have -- >> you've got to be kidding me. what did you get? >> well, we actually -- i was up all night making this. >> yeah, you were. >> you want to cut into that sucker? >> i don't eat sweets. >> last, the laughter that they would do that without doing -- >> mr. cheney is getting a call. that's the first time on "fox news sunday." >> it's not like this in washington. bret hume doesn't act this way. >> there we go. >> there you go. >> when we sang happy birthday, winston always thought it was for him. he loved to play in the snow. he loved to get up on a couch and look out a window at the
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traffic. and my father used to say, growing old isn't for sissies, is it? >> to, it's not for sissies but there are a lot of benefits. >> it's a great book. it is a great life. i couldn't be prouder of both, and i love you. i love you. and i'm proud of you. >> i don't have a glamorous lifestyle or anything. >> and do you miss that? >> no, i'm old. >> old? what are you -- >> 46, yeah. >> what am i? >> a dinosaur. [ laughter ] >> and it seems we have some more cake left over from our wildly unsuccessful paul ryan's birthday stunt. who is that good looking fellow on there? >> a young fellow. >> actually, you always liked to chop my head off. >> i'm worried that you have a knife at all. >> congratulations on a great ten years. >> absolutely.
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>> congratulations. >> thank you. thank you very much. that's it for today and for the first ten years, thank you. thank you so much for watching. have a great week. and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." this week on "the journal editorial report," the white house taughts the white house we'll sort the truth from the spin. plus, new global education rankings once again show american students lagging. so just how worried should we be? and china flexes its military muscle as vice president joe biden visits the region. will the u.s. stand firm with japan as tensions rise? >> obviously the website, when it was first launched, wasn't in tip-top shape, to say the least. but we h